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Courtcase against a black hole, september 10th

Scientists in Geneva Switserland will start to investigate the Big Bang on september 10th 2008 with a machine called ‘Large Hadron Collider’ which has cost over 9 billion dollars to make. The machine essentially rotates particles at high level speeds, which could cause them to collide and create a so-called ‘black hole’, a hole in space that sucks in all material surrounding it.

As I understand it a black hole the size of a match would be large enough to swallow the whole earth. Some scientists are so worried about this experiment they have gone to the European human rights court to try stop this experiment. However this will not stop the experiment as that court is way too bureaucratic to take fast decisions.

Main opponent of the experiment is Otto Rossler. He says it could spawn mini black holes which, within four years, could grow big enough to suck the earth inside out. I have googled Rossler. He is a scientist, but not at all a particles expert. This is his wikipedia page

Rossler writes:

“My own calculations have shown it is quite plausible that these little black holes survive and will grow exponentially and eat the planet from the inside,” he warned.

“I have been calling for CERN to hold a safety conference to prove my conclusions wrong but they have not been willing.”

Most likely Rosslers concerns are poppycock, however, but the thing is one can’t be absolutely sure about these sort of things, which does make the experiment sort of risky. But just how risky we will never know. Or at least not any time soon. Normally black holes wouldnt form at the amounts of energy the LHC controls, according to wikipedia:

Under standard theories, such an energy to produce a micro black hole is orders of magnitude greater than that which can be produced on Earth in particle accelerators such as the LHC (maximum about 1.15 106 GeV), or detected in cosmic ray collisions in our atmosphere. It is estimated[citation needed] that to collide two aggregates of fermions to within a distance of a Planck length with the currently achievable magnetic field strength would require a ring accelerator about 1000 light years in diameter to keep the aggregates on track. Even if it were possible, any collision product would be immensely unstable, and almost immediately disintegrate[citation needed].

The problem here lies at the start of the sentence: ‘under standard theories’ meaning we have very little experience in this field.

25 Responses to “Courtcase against a black hole, september 10th”

  • Peter Hendry:
    Open letter to the scientists at CERN.



    Dear workers, scientists and theoretical physisists, working on the Hadron Collider,



    I have learned that there is a strong possibility that there is a fourth state of matter called Monatomic Atoms or High Spin Atoms.

    The theory being that these atoms spin just fast enough to prevent them from forming molecules.

    When A. Einstein was working on his Theories the technology to find them was not available.

    Is this what was missing; are you trying to make a three sided square ?


    Can you put your hands on your hearts and give me and my fellow citizens of the world a categoric assurance that you have proved or disproved their existence and included this in your calculations?

    A simple Yes or No will suffice.



    Yours, in hope,

    Peter J.G.Hendry.
    Domaine des Fontenilles
    87360
    Azat le Ris
    France
  • Hi Peter,

    While we certainly aren’t CERN i do appreciate your input. Interesting idea about Monatomic Atoms – where did you get it and how do you suppose it could influence this experiment?

    Martijn
  • kayleigh:
    lauren we mite lmaooo
  • Amy:
    I RELI DNT WNNA DIE:( :l
  • Amy:
    :L this is gayy
  • Stephanie:
    Omg I Dnt Wonna Dieee:O:L:L:L
    Asif We Will:P
  • kayleigh:
    ommmgg we jus need ellie and karina her lmaoooo
  • Amy:
    hahaha how do yu get the smiley face?
  • Stephanie:
    get me kayleigh
  • Amy:
    GEHH ME STEFANNY
  • Amy:
    What Thing?
  • kayleigh:
    lool stephs a douchbag :P :P :)
  • Amy:
    Whyy Is Shee?
  • Lewis:
    i love the scientists they are sexy lmfao


    hu is amy,steph,kayleigh hu ever you are your gay lol


    hope the world dnt end though
  • Stephanie:
    :L Kayleigh Douper Bagg:L
  • Amy:
    ITS AMY.BURGESS LAUREN HARRISON KAYLEIGH NOB HEAD :L
  • Amy:
    Im Gonneeeee Byeee.
  • Stephanie:
    Laterss Onn
  • Stephanie:
    We Are On A Coutcasee:O
    :L Um Goneeeee..
    Byee:P
  • kayleigh:
    Im In Bathhhh LMAO!
  • Abraxis Everblast:
    Is this an attempt at interactive flarf poetry?

    Or just a bunch of bored kids that accidentally dropped by?
  • Peter Hendry:
    Dear M. H. Benders

    There are many websites discussing Monatomic atoms.
    They were discovered 20yrs ago by David Hudson see;

    http://www.rexresearch.com/ormes/ormes.htm

    They can hide in molecules of other metals and may indeed explain the “missing matter”
  • Yeah not many people actually I’d say 95% of the world does not want to die, but basically the whole theroy of the radiation killing the blackhole off has not even been proven to exist.

    WE NEED to and HAVE to do more research into this before we do these such experiments and the courts need to do something aswell as everyone else to stop this.
  • Hmm...:
    Hmm… Well this is all very interesting, and although I have huge hopes for my self in the future, I’d say this would be a very- interesting and worth while way to die… What? Being sucked into a black hole aint good enough for you? Consider your selfs the FIRST being to ever be eradicated by our selves useing black hole suicide, is that super speacial awesome or what? Or then again, maybe it won’t mess up… You never know, I suppose we’ll find out eventually… But on the brighter side, the idea that a human could create a black hole is very small… For instence… Take the sun. Now, imagine it the size of say… A marble, well, that’s the kind of pressure we’re talking about even get a nuetron star going, (of course that pressure will not happen in are sun, and it will eventually just turn into a white dorf, then die.) For a black hole to occur we’d eathier need a DIRECT rip in the fabric of space time, (please, for refrences on exactly what ‘space time’ is, look it up on you tube, it’s very facinating.)or a massive implossion that a device on earth could never imitate, not to mention the matter being delt with isn’t large, so I’m talking IMENSE, bigger then the most imense thing you can imagine (abide the big bang or big crunch). The probobility of earth being sucked in is very very slim, but hell, if we’re all going to die it might as well be this…

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